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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:45 pm

Since spiral galaxies such as our own Milky Way are theoretically based on black holes pulling in masses of cosmic matter into itself much like water down a bathtub drain, I am very curious about where the matter is pulled TO. I know this has nothing to do with Madden or that "stick and ball" sport. I just thought I would break the monotony. Very Happy


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Re: Food for thought

Post by sam22smith on Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:14 pm

The matter goes TO the backhoe and stays there. The reason a backhole sucks everything in is because it is a point in space which has an extremely concentrated amount of matter. So the more matter that gets pulled into the point, the stronger it gets - and it's event horizon grows outward.

That is my opinion......
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Post by Fr8trainShane on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:32 am

All of the general laws of physics, breakdown after your cross the Event Horizon of a black hole. The center of a black hole is called a singularity, and is considered by far the densest source of matter/antimatter/energy in the known universe.

While previous theories had hypothesized that matter is just infinitesimally crushed in the singularity, Stephen Hawking, and countless other studies have shown that this is not the case. Matter is actually ejected out of black holes...such matter is referred to as Hawking Radiation.


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Post by falconfansince81 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:05 am

Fr8trainShane wrote:All of the general laws of physics, breakdown after your cross the Event Horizon of a black hole. The center of a black hole is called a singularity, and is considered by far the densest source of matter/antimatter/energy in the known universe.

While previous theories had hypothesized that matter is just infinitesimally crushed in the singularity, Stephen Hawking, and countless other studies have shown that this is not the case. Matter is actually ejected out of black holes...such matter is referred to as Hawking Radiation.

there are so many galaxies, forming and collapsing as we speak...some argue an infinite amount. but whats infinity? just endless repetition? kind of defeated the purpose and meaning to origin...i'd guess the matter is dispersed into other parallel dimension to create these new said galaxies...which is why i believe time travel is possible. all about them parallel universes coinciding with time-space continuum on a parallel plane. or maybe i've just watched donnie darko too many times lol, who the hell knows.
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Re: Food for thought

Post by Shlarman on Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:31 am

holy shit falcon what is that coming out of your chest? follow it!

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Post by falconfansince81 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:26 am

Shlarman wrote:holy shit falcon what is that coming out of your chest? follow it!

WINNER!! if i saw that shit i'd choose free will just to see if the world would end Smile
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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:22 am

sam22smith wrote:The matter goes TO the backhoe and stays there. The reason a backhole sucks everything in is because it is a point in space which has an extremely concentrated amount of matter. So the more matter that gets pulled into the point, the stronger it gets - and it's event horizon grows outward.

That is my opinion......


That's the widely accepted theory. I'm kind of a dreamer, so I just wonder what if it mashes everything down and spits it out the other side into who knows what.
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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:25 am

Fr8trainShane wrote:All of the general laws of physics, breakdown after your cross the Event Horizon of a black hole. The center of a black hole is called a singularity, and is considered by far the densest source of matter/antimatter/energy in the known universe.

While previous theories had hypothesized that matter is just infinitesimally crushed in the singularity, Stephen Hawking, and countless other studies have shown that this is not the case. Matter is actually ejected out of black holes...such matter is referred to as Hawking Radiation.


Yeah that is more the kind of direction I lean.
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falconfansince81 wrote:
Fr8trainShane wrote:All of the general laws of physics, breakdown after your cross the Event Horizon of a black hole. The center of a black hole is called a singularity, and is considered by far the densest source of matter/antimatter/energy in the known universe.

While previous theories had hypothesized that matter is just infinitesimally crushed in the singularity, Stephen Hawking, and countless other studies have shown that this is not the case. Matter is actually ejected out of black holes...such matter is referred to as Hawking Radiation.

there are so many galaxies, forming and collapsing as we speak...some argue an infinite amount. but whats infinity? just endless repetition? kind of defeated the purpose and meaning to origin...i'd guess the matter is dispersed into other parallel dimension to create these new said galaxies...which is why i believe time travel is possible. all about them parallel universes coinciding with time-space continuum on a parallel plane. or maybe i've just watched donnie darko too many times lol, who the hell knows.


Yeah man I've seen a lot of info that makes me think time travel is POSSIBLE based on the continuum. Mathematically possible through wormholes. I wouldn't wanna be the first to try it though lol. Or maybe I've watched too much Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Lol
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Re: Food for thought

Post by Shlarman on Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:21 am

So I woke up too early on accident and somehow ended up searching stuff about black holes (thanks Cosmic). lol. I don't know If you guys have seen these yet or not but they seem interesting so far,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW7BvabYnn8&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYKyt3C0oT4&feature=relmfu


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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:44 am

Shlarman wrote:So I woke up too early on accident and somehow ended up searching stuff about black holes (thanks Cosmic). lol. I don't know If you guys have seen these yet or not but they seem interesting so far,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW7BvabYnn8&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYKyt3C0oT4&feature=relmfu



Great stuff bro! I'm completely fascinated by this type of stuff. How could there not be a God?
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Re: Food for thought

Post by Fr8trainShane on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:55 pm

Love the videos.....

I, like most of you, am completely fascinated by the cosmos, space-time, string theory and shit you see on NOVA.

While I don't share Cosmic's celestial viewpoint, I think there is just so much we don't know.....lol

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Post by jmojsoski on Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:43 am

This is were all the rocket scientist are...Maybe if we talked about the United States deteriorating infrastructure (meanly due to corrosive environments, just my opinion), or something along the lines of hydraulic Fracturing, I would have something to contribute, until then, your nerds...lol
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Post by Fr8trainShane on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:35 am

jmojsoski wrote:This is were all the rocket scientist are...Maybe if we talked about the United States deteriorating infrastructure (meanly due to corrosive environments, just my opinion), or something along the lines of hydraulic Fracturing, I would have something to contribute, until then, your nerds...lol

I blame the bidding process on the deteriorating infrastructure..... you are bound to continually have problems when you always award the contracts to the lowest bidder. They'll use substandard parts, or parts that barely meet regulation, and they'll obviously cut corners to make sure their profit margin is higher.

How is it that Germany, a much smaller and technologically inferior country, can develop a much better road system, that doesn't deteriorate every damn year.

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Post by falconfansince81 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:42 am

Fr8trainShane wrote:
jmojsoski wrote:This is were all the rocket scientist are...Maybe if we talked about the United States deteriorating infrastructure (meanly due to corrosive environments, just my opinion), or something along the lines of hydraulic Fracturing, I would have something to contribute, until then, your nerds...lol

I blame the bidding process on the deteriorating infrastructure..... you are bound to continually have problems when you always award the contracts to the lowest bidder. They'll use substandard parts, or parts that barely meet regulation, and they'll obviously cut corners to make sure their profit margin is higher.

How is it that Germany, a much smaller and technologically inferior country, can develop a much better road system, that doesn't deteriorate every damn year.

so you have potholes that can swallow a prius as well?
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Post by Fr8trainShane on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:45 am

Germany's roads are much better.....thicker, they deteriorate a lot slower.....but they are roughly twice the thickness of our roads.

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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:58 pm

Fr8trainShane wrote:
jmojsoski wrote:This is were all the rocket scientist are...Maybe if we talked about the United States deteriorating infrastructure (meanly due to corrosive environments, just my opinion), or something along the lines of hydraulic Fracturing, I would have something to contribute, until then, your nerds...lol

I blame the bidding process on the deteriorating infrastructure..... you are bound to continually have problems when you always award the contracts to the lowest bidder. They'll use substandard parts, or parts that barely meet regulation, and they'll obviously cut corners to make sure their profit margin is higher.

How is it that Germany, a much smaller and technologically inferior country, can develop a much better road system, that doesn't deteriorate every damn year.

The fact that the govt usually does road/infrastructure work is really explanitory of why it is awful.
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Post by Fr8trainShane on Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:02 pm

COsMiCTrAvO wrote:

The fact that the govt usually does road/infrastructure work is really explanitory of why it is awful.

+ infinity

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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:06 pm

Fr8trainShane wrote:
COsMiCTrAvO wrote:

The fact that the govt usually does road/infrastructure work is really explanitory of why it is awful.

+ infinity


I knew there was something I like about you!
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Post by jmojsoski on Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:20 pm

COsMiCTrAvO wrote:
Fr8trainShane wrote:
jmojsoski wrote:This is were all the rocket scientist are...Maybe if we talked about the United States deteriorating infrastructure (meanly due to corrosive environments, just my opinion), or something along the lines of hydraulic Fracturing, I would have something to contribute, until then, your nerds...lol

I blame the bidding process on the deteriorating infrastructure..... you are bound to continually have problems when you always award the contracts to the lowest bidder. They'll use substandard parts, or parts that barely meet regulation, and they'll obviously cut corners to make sure their profit margin is higher.

How is it that Germany, a much smaller and technologically inferior country, can develop a much better road system, that doesn't deteriorate every damn year.


The fact that the govt usually does road/infrastructure work is really explanitory of why it is awful.
+1 also the fact that GOVt does not put nearly enough money towards restoration and maintenance projects. We have this weird concept as a people, that once something is built it can last a very long time without maintaining the structure .
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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:51 pm

jmojsoski wrote:
COsMiCTrAvO wrote:
Fr8trainShane wrote:
jmojsoski wrote:This is were all the rocket scientist are...Maybe if we talked about the United States deteriorating infrastructure (meanly due to corrosive environments, just my opinion), or something along the lines of hydraulic Fracturing, I would have something to contribute, until then, your nerds...lol

I blame the bidding process on the deteriorating infrastructure..... you are bound to continually have problems when you always award the contracts to the lowest bidder. They'll use substandard parts, or parts that barely meet regulation, and they'll obviously cut corners to make sure their profit margin is higher.

How is it that Germany, a much smaller and technologically inferior country, can develop a much better road system, that doesn't deteriorate every damn year.


The fact that the govt usually does road/infrastructure work is really explanitory of why it is awful.
+1 also the fact that GOVt does not put nearly enough money towards restoration and maintenance projects. We have this weird concept as a people, that once something is built it can last a very long time without maintaining the structure .

I agree Jmo. A problem is that a huge amount of tax money is grossly mishandled. To the point of what is arguably criminal negligence.
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Post by Shlarman on Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:34 pm

I'm no longer old enough to engage in this conversation, can we go back to talking about pretty stars?

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Post by COsMiCTrAvO on Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:53 pm

Shlarman wrote:I'm no longer old enough to engage in this conversation, can we go back to talking about pretty stars?

Hehehe I hear ya bro the world is in such a state it would be nice if we didn't have to worry about this stuff!
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